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I was introduced to Kaitlin Roten of by Chris Scott from Swift Galleries. Kaitlin is utilising school portraits to book family shoots and sell wall art and her sales have skyrocketed after moving from shoot-and-burn to in-person-sales or IPS.

Chris told me Kaitlin multiplied her annual income in just 2 months after implementing IPS!

Check out her website and it's easy to see… Kaitlin is ALL ABOUT custom wall art.

You'll hear in this interview just how clear and upfront Kaitlin is about the process her clients will go through on the way to filling their homes with beautiful photography. From step by step guides, complete pricing detail and what happens before and after the shoot.

If you're not conducting IPS in your photography business or maybe you're struggling to make consistent sales, this episode is for you!

Here’s some more of what we cover in the interview:

  • A short background on Kaitlin's photography business
  • A brief view of how her school photography works
  • Getting started with school photography
  • Collaborating with schools and how it works
  • A snapshot on Kaitlin's school photoshoots
  • How parents can access their children's photos securely online
  • How much parents pay and what they get from the photoshoot
  • Kaitlin's marketing strategies and incentives to book and buy
  • A creative way to gather emails for her email lists
  • The importance of getting honest feedback from your clients
  • How Kaitlin handles framing prints for urgent orders
  • How she encourages her clients to jump from school to family photography
  • Kaitlin's cold calling experiences and how she strategically benefits from them
  • How Kaitlin does her pre-shoot consultation
  • Dressing up and looking professional when meeting clients – for good reason
  • Kaitlin's in-person sales session process
  • How to price your products and educate clients about them
  • Kaitlin's ordering and payment options
  • Why Kaitlin switched from shoot-and-burn to IPS

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I feel like in my journey this last four years, I've become really confident and professional. Now I know what I'm giving clients. – Kaitlin Roten

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What is your big takeaway?

Following this interview, I’d love to know if you're taking anything away from what Kaitlin shared. Is there something you heard that excited or motivated you to the point where you thought, yeah, I'm going to do that! If so, let me know by leaving your thoughts in the comments below, let me know what your takeaways were, what you plan to implement in your business as a result of what you heard in today's episode.

Clients really only need to see the best of the best so they think I'm the best of the best and the photos are one of a kind. – Kaitlin Roten

If you have any questions that I missed, a specific question you’d like to ask Kaitlin or if you just want to say thanks for coming on the show, feel free to add them in the comments area below.

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Links to people, places and things mentioned in this episode:

Kaitlin Roten Website

Kaitlin Roten on Facebook

Kaitlin Roten on Instagram

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Thank you!

Thanks again for listening and big thanks to Kaitlin for coming on and sharing her thoughts and ideas on IPS, selling wall art successfully and professionally. I LOVE the way you approach photography as a service to your clients and go as far as supplying a handyman to install their purchased artwork (photography) following a sales session. Genius!

I don't like selling things. But I'm happy walking into a school becasue I'm not selling anything and the school is not buying anything from me, the parents are. – Kaitlin Roten

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That’s it for me this week, hope everything is going well for you in life and business!

Thanks and speak soon