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Tracy Goodwin of www.captivatetheroom.com is a voice expert, coach, author, and podcaster who’s spent nearly 30 years studying how we use our voice… and what really happens when the pressure is on.

She believes your voice is the most powerful — and most underutilised — asset you have in your business.

And that it’s not what you say that creates connection… it’s how you say it.

Because within seconds of hearing you speak, people are already deciding:

Do they trust you?
Do you sound confident?
Do you feel like an expert?

And here’s the part most photographers never consider…

Those decisions aren’t being made consciously.

They’re happening automatically — based on subtle cues in your voice you probably don’t even realise you’re giving off.

Which means you could be saying all the right things… and still losing the booking.

In this interview, I wanted to dig into what’s really going on with your voice — especially in those moments where it matters most — like enquiry calls, pricing conversations, and showing up on video.

Because if your voice is out of alignment… it doesn’t matter how good your work is.

And Tracy Goodwin is the perfect person to unpack this.

This interview was recorded live with PhotoBizX members on the call, and Tracy shares how your voice is being judged in seconds, why fear and self-doubt quietly show up in your tone, what’s really happening when you sound different under pressure, and how small shifts in the way you speak can completely change the way clients feel — and whether they book.

Here's some more of what we covered in the interview:

  • Why your voice builds (or destroys) trust before your portfolio is even considered
  • How authenticity isn’t about being yourself… it’s about removing what’s blocking it
  • Why clients decide to say yes long before they’ve seen your full gallery
  • The “professional mask” most photographers wear — and how it quietly kills connection
  • Why introverts don’t struggle with sales… they struggle with the wrong expectations
  • How extroverts lose bookings by performing instead of connecting
  • Why fear of judgment is the real reason you hesitate on calls, video, and pricing
  • How your voice reveals insecurity — even when your words sound confident
  • Why speaking faster isn’t confidence… it’s your brain trying to escape the moment
  • How slowing down isn’t about technique — it’s a signal of certainty and control
  • Why scripts don’t fix sales calls… they expose disconnection
  • How presence beats polish every time in a client conversation
  • Why clients question your price the moment you stop believing it yourself
  • How selling emotion changes everything — without “selling harder”
  • Why objections aren’t resistance… they’re unresolved fear
  • How to talk about what you do without shrinking it in everyday conversations
  • Why the photographers who win aren’t the best marketers… they’re the most believable

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Within seconds of hearing you speak, people have already decided if they trust you. – Tracy Goodwin

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Your voice is the one thing AI can’t replicate — it’s where real connection lives. – Tracy Goodwin

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What is your big takeaway?

Following this interview, I’d love to know if you're taking anything from what Tracy shared. Is there something you heard that excited or motivated you to the point where you thought, yeah, I'm going to do that! If so, leave your thoughts in the comments below; let me know your takeaways and what you plan to implement in your business based on today's episode.

It’s not what you say that creates connection… it’s how you say it. – Tracy Goodwin

If you have any questions I missed, a specific question you’d like to ask Tracy, or a way to thank her for coming on the show, feel free to add them in the comments area below.

Objections aren’t rejection… they’re fear showing up in real time. – Tracy Goodwin

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No pressure tactics.
No discounting.
No weird “sales tricks.”

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In this training, he shares what’s actually driving those results — and why most photographers are losing sales before the session even begins.

If you know your work is good… but your sales don’t reflect it… this is worth a look.

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iTunes Reviews and Shout-outs

I check for any new iTunes or Google reviews each week, and it's always a buzz to receive these… for several reasons. Firstly, it's confirmation that I'm on the right track with the interviews and that they are helping you improve your photography business. That's awesome! Secondly, iTunes and Google are the most significant podcast search engines, and your reviews and ratings help other photographers find PhotoBizX. More listeners mean more interviews and, ultimately, a better show.

The brain of the listener is always seeking movement — and your voice either has it or it doesn’t. – Tracy Goodwin

If you have left a review in the past, thank you! If you haven't and you'd like to, head to https://photobizx.com/itunes or https://photobizx.com/google. You can leave some honest feedback and a rating, which will help me and the show. I'll be sure to thank you on the show and add a link to your website or blog if you let me know the URL of your website and your name. Alternatively, if you've left a review for PhotoBizX and are looking for more backlinks to help your SEO, leave a review for the new Photography Xperiment Podcast. Email me your keywords or phrases and where you'd like me to link them.

Most people talk too much because they don’t fully believe what they’re saying. – Tracy Goodwin

Another great way to get a backlink to your site is to send a video testimonial. It doesn't need to be fancy, and your phone will be perfect. Click record and tell me how PhotoBizX has impacted you and your photography business.​

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Links to people, places and things mentioned in this episode:

The Authentic Voice for Photographers TrainingPremium Members receive a 40% rebate. 

Captivate the Room Website

Captivate the Room on Instagram

Captivate the Room on Facebook

Captivate the Room on YouTube

Tracy Goodwin on TikTok

Tracy Goodwin on LinkedIn

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Episode 542: Tracy Goodwin – How to control the conversation to increase conversions and sales in your photography business

Confidence in your voice isn’t volume… it’s ownership. – Tracy Goodwin

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Thank you!

Huge thanks to Tracy for coming on and sharing so openly.

What stood out for me… this isn’t really about what you say. It’s about what your voice is revealing underneath.

Because whether you realise it or not, every conversation… every call… every video… your voice is either building trust — or quietly breaking it.

And the part most of us miss?

Clients aren’t just listening to your words. They’re reacting to how you make them feel.

That’s what they’re buying.

Love to hear what stood out for you in this one — and whether it’s changed how you’re thinking about the way you show up and communicate in your business.

People don’t buy based on logic — they buy based on how you make them feel. – Tracy Goodwin

That’s it for me this week; I hope everything is going well for you in life and business!

Thanks for listening—speak soon,
Andrew