Have you ever considered the possibility of reinventing yourself as a photographer when things just aren't working or work all but disappears? At the age of 57, photographer William Gray is on a focused mission to do just that in the world of photography business.

William worked full time in the Motion Picture Industry for nearly 3 decades, primarily as a focus puller but that work dried up, almost overnight. Although his passion is movie set stills photography, he's had to shift focus to whats available… portrait and wedding photography, teaching and lecturing.

Here’s some of what we cover:

  • What does a focus puller in the movie world actually do
  • What happens when the job you know and love just disappears?
  • Why the movie industry is losing film experts
  • Can set stills photographers survive in the movie industry today
  • Bill's unique photography service offerings
  • How Bill differentiates himself from traditional wedding photographers
  • Why the wedding photography industry now?
  • Always practice your framing and good content will follow
  • The dilemma of working hard to establish a career in an industry that disappears overnight
  • Is age a hindrance in pursuing your passion
  • Teaching photography part-time as a means to get sustainable income
  • Targeting new clients outside of the movie industry
  • What Bill has learnt from other photographers' marketing strategies
  • How Bill decides what marketing strategies to apply to his business
  • Business persistence and serendipity as a key to the success of your business
  • What's working in business now
  • How not to be your average wedding photographer
  • Is there a future for film in wedding photography
  • Pricing
  • How Bill markets his work
  • What's to dislike about digital cameras
  • The best thing Bill has done for his business
  • Will Bill still chose film over stills if given the choice to go back
  • Cross-processing film

Bill Gray Photography Podcast

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If you’re a premium member, you should have received an email with links to your version of this episode where you can download a PDF file William has put together for your use.

The PDF covers a range of topics and recommended resources including:

  • Book titles on creativity and photography techniques
  • Movies to check out for their lighting and lensing techniques
  • Film workflow and scanning
  • Drum Scanning
  • Photographers and cinematographers to check out
  • And more

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Bill Gray Photography Podcast

What is your big takeaway?

Following this interview, I’d love to know what your biggest takeaway is – what is the one thing that you’d like to implement or learnt from what was shared? Let me know by leaving your thoughts in the comments below.

It's hard to let go of creativity when you've done it for a lifetime – William Gray

If you have any questions that I missed, a specific question you’d like to ask William or if you just want to say thanks for coming on the show, feel free to add them below.

Bill Gray Photography Podcast

A follow up email from William

I think the follow up email I received from William is just as relevant as the interview we did. I think you'll see a side of yourself in everything he writes, I know I did.

Andrew,

Man have I ever deliberated over our interview and this follow up letter for weeks. I keep thinking of things I could/should have said. Thank you for the opportunity Andrew. If there is anything anyone out there in PBX wants to ask me anything I’m readily available via eMail. [email protected]. Please take what I say with a grain of salt. Like Photoshop, there are often 5 right ways to work. Even more with opinions on photography and film making. This is all opinion only and I’m often wrong. 

I’ll start with this quote that has stayed with me since college:
“The Zen System and the pursuit of spirit thought photography, along with a number of other systems, became less of a burden to me when I emphasized doing instead of thinking. Too often I was finding that systems and exercises might point out where I was not, but this only left me in a state of desire and preconception about where I wished to be.” –Paul Caponigro (SR)  ‘The Zen System’ could be substituted with any ‘system (Canon/Fuji/Nikon/SEO/PS plugins/Marketing/Sales…)
Photographers that are honest in their creative intent but weak at business often get stuck in a preconception of where they are supposed to be in business. For some of us life all about a focus on photographic intuition and framing. For some it’s mostly business. We are all have varying degrees of both parts. Being focused only on where you are NOT photographically or with business often puts your creative side on hold.
 
Intuition is everything… ’There is a creative fraction of a second when you are taking a picture. Your eye must see a composition of expression that life itself offer you, and you must know with intuition when to click the camera. That is the moment the photographer is creative.” -Henri Cartier-Breson 
 
The Photo Biz interviews that have the most relevance for me stress incremental daily/weekly business work. When business/Web/SEO becomes a daily hour here or an hour there routine you worry less about that part of your job. 
 
There are so many hard driving, all business photographe
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14 Comments

  1. Christopher Gillham September 22, 2015 at 4:30 pm

    Hi William,

    This might sound vague or childish but I think you are living the dream. I am a avid film photographer and would love to discuss with you how you treat your 8X10 film. I shoot both film and digital but prefer film. I have a tertiary qualification in photography based around film and love the darkroom. I have been in the industry for over 30 years.

    • Andrew Hellmich October 2, 2015 at 10:59 am

      Loved reading your comments Chris – sounds like you and William have a LOT in common!

      Not sure if you saw his reply to your comments below…

      • Christopher Gillham October 2, 2015 at 11:44 am

        Thanks Andrew, I didn’t see William’s reply but will email him. Have a good weekend.

        Chris

  2. William Gray September 22, 2015 at 10:00 pm

    Chris,

    eMail me. Basically I shoot what I can afford. I process in what ever is at hand. Sprint, Ilford, Kodak, it doesn’t matter. I keep meticulous ISO/Processing notes. These days I hand tray process. I’m geared up for JOBO but have not had the time test that system. I’m often disappointed at the amount of weekly film shooting I do. It takes a lot to overcome my feelings for digital even though I know it’s a better intuitive learning tool.

    BG

  3. ray September 27, 2015 at 2:15 am

    Wow! This was an awesome interview! Having worked in the film industry for a few years I too can attest that being on set is the best job in the world. You truly cant believe you are being paid to be there. I would rather be carrying 20 camera cases up a hill than being stuck behind a desk. Your’e work is great William! With your knowledge and skill I know you’ll be successful.

    • Andrew Hellmich October 2, 2015 at 11:03 am

      Thanks so much Ray

      I’d love to spend day or two on a film set shooting, sounds fantastic. The closest I’ve come was a few weeks ago on an isolated beach in India… Linda and I stumbled across a Bollywood movie being shot and spent an hour watching the production in 40 degree Celsius heat!

      Like you say though… better than driving a desk in a cubicle somewhere.

  4. Orlando Sydney October 7, 2015 at 2:56 pm

    I’m catching up on a few podcasts and listened to this just yesterday, how good to hear from a very honest and grounded photographer / creator. Thank you William

    The closest I’ve been on a film set was for a short film “Room 87” which debut at 2015 Cannes Film Festival – Short Film Corner

    that was cool, let alone on a full size film set !
    All the best William

    • Andrew Hellmich October 18, 2015 at 12:09 pm

      Thanks for adding your comments Orlando, happy to hear you enjoyed this one as much as I did.

      I’d never been on a film set till my recent trip to India when Linda and I stumbled onto a Bollywood film set on the beach. Maybe not the same thing but I could have definitely stayed longer if it wasn’t for the brutal heat – don’t know how the back up dancers managed the temps!

      Not sure if you saw William’s reply to you below… 🙂

  5. paul duane October 8, 2015 at 8:47 am

    Andrew / William, what an amazing podcast. From Williams almost encyclopaedic knowledge of photography equipment i never even knew existed to Andrews obvious enthusiasm and excitement at the interview it was great to listen to. It shows a side to this business that gets lost sometimes in the analytics of business. It show the “real” side of photography. I’m going to spend the “quiet” time over winter in Ireland to catch up on a lot of what you guys talked about I have to go and dig out a roll of film for my little fujica. Thanks guys

    • Andrew Hellmich October 18, 2015 at 12:14 pm

      Thanks so much Paul – I definitely felt out of depth talking to William but there was no lack of enthusiasm.

      I think you’re spot on with the “other side” of business that does get overlooked – the wonderful history and art of what we do.

      I’m yet to dig out some film for my old cameras, I do plan to, but have been enjoying old films and youtube videos on the masters and history of photography.

      BTW – not sure if you saw the reply by William to your comments below…

  6. William Gray October 8, 2015 at 11:49 am

    Thank you Andrew and thank you Paul. Thank you Orlando.

    Spent a lot of time around people that are scary talented. I have lived a charmed camera life. Luck I’d never have had in LA unless my father was in the camera biz. I can still see the first print that came up in the darkroom dev tray years and years ago. I’m always living frightened that I’d loose that excitement.

    “Amateurs look for inspiration; the rest of us just get up and go to work.”
    ― Chuck Close

    Thank you again Andrew.

    BG

    • Andrew Hellmich October 18, 2015 at 12:15 pm

      My pleasure William.

      Your quote reminds me of an incredibly good books by Steven Pressfield…. The War of Art and Do The Work – both are highly recommended if you haven’t read them.

    • Orlando Sydney October 18, 2015 at 1:25 pm

      cheers William, interesting quote, and very nice of you to follow up your interview with comments

  7. William Gray October 21, 2015 at 12:16 am

    A, Both are on my reading list. Cheers to your Orlando. BG

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