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Kristen Kalp of will have given up on and deleted Facebook by the time you hear this interview. That means all of Facebook… Messenger, Groups, Ads, personal and business profiles. SHOCK, HORROR, what is she thinking?! What would your life and business look and feel like after quitting Facebook? Would you survive, have more time, miss it, or all of these? Do you need Facebook to survive as a photographer in business today, especially if that's where your clients are hanging out?

We cover all that and more with Kristen in this episode once I struggle to come up with the best or right way to introduce Kristen.

Just because you can’t quit it doesn’t mean you can’t begin to draw boundaries around it – Kristen Kalp

Regular listeners will know and LOVE her from previous episodes of PhotoBizX. If, however, you're unfamiliar with Kristen… She is a poet, teacher, speaker, writer and business coach. But different to all the other “coaches” you might know. Kristen has a knack of making you aware that you are quite normal with all the crazy thoughts you might have about yourself, your life, business, photography, family, relationships and at the same time… She'll make you see, you're totally unique.

Here’s some of what we cover in this interview:

  • How Kristen defines the kind of career she has right now
  • Why do we have the tendency to deflect questions?
  • Why Kristen considers herself a safe space for people to open up and share
  • Are you really a poet?
  • It takes far more work to claim the title of poet than it does to make money doing it
  • Do you have to produce a book to be worthy of being coined a poet, writer or author?
  • Why Kristen decided to quit Facebook
  • Why you should stop using Facebook to run your career and life
  • What Kristen is willing to get in exchange for a 20% decline in traffic once she quits Facebook
  • There’s work you can do and there’s work that you were born to do, your truest work being the work that only you can do
  • Is Facebook only noise and chatter?
  • How will people find Kristen now she's quit Facebook?
  • Relying on email to market your business
  • What are the chances of Kristen going back to Facebook and what she will do first to kick things off?
  • How to prevent being consumed by Facebook and improve your productivity
  • How to market your business without Facebook ads
  • Tips on marketing your business the fun way
  • What triggered Kristen’s decision to quit Facebook?
  • How to cope with what people will think when you announce you’ll quit Facebook and return 6 months later
  • Steps to prepare for quitting Facebook
  • Why you should declutter and quit any Facebook groups that have not added value in the last 30 days
  • Why Kristen is running live events again despite losing a lot of money in a past event
  • How much does Kristen think about money and making money in her life?

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What is your big takeaway?

Following this interview, I’d love to know if you're taking anything away from what Kristen shared. Is there something you heard that excited or motivated you to the point where you thought, yeah, I'm going to do that! If so, let me know by leaving your thoughts in the comments below, let me know what your takeaways were, what you plan to implement in your business as a result of what you heard in todays episode.

I have a horrifying fear of small talk – Kristen Kalp

If you have any questions that I missed, a specific question you’d like to ask Kristen or if you just want to say thanks for coming on the show, feel free to add them in the comments area below.

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iTunes Reviews and Shout-outs

Each week I check for any new iTunes reviews and it's always a buzz to receive these… for a couple of reasons.

Firstly, it's confirmation that I'm on the right track with the interviews and that they really are helping you improve your photography business. That's awesome!

Secondly, iTunes is the biggest search engine when it comes to podcasts and it's your reviews and ratings that help other photographers find PhotoBizX. More listeners means more interviews and ultimately a better show.

If you have left a review in the past, thank you!

If you haven't and you'd like to, head to and you can leave some honest feedback and a rating which will help both me and the show and I'll be sure to thank you on the show and add a link to your website or blog if you let me know the URL of your website and your name.

Alternatively, if you've left a review for PhotoBizX and are looking for more backlinks to help your SEO, leave a review for the new Photography Xperiment Podcast  and email me your key words or keyword phrase and where you'd like me to link to.

Here's one of the latest reviews:

The best podcast for your business…

In iTunes by Wigtownshire wedding photographer Dan Baillie in the UK on June 1, 2017

I started listening to the podcast 6 months ago and get heaps of marketing, sales and workflow tips from listening. I mainly listen to the podcast when I am driving in the car or when I am ironing my shirts for the week and it really helps to constructively pass the time.

Andrew makes sure that the guests on the podcast are drawn from a global pool of talent featuring photographers and relevant business people from around the world. There is so much great info and I look forward to the new episodes each week.

The premium content is definitely worth subscribing to as there is even more superb content on offer.

Andrew has a nice relaxed presenting style and doesn't shy away from asking the guests some difficult questions about their business choices or decisions.

Keep up the good work this is a fantastic resource.

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Congrats to Lukas!

Linz wedding photographer, Lukas Leonte has recently left his office day job to pursue photography full time and he's done it 6 months earlier than he expected or planned.

From all of us, me and the listeners, congratulations Lukas!

If you'd like to follow suit, spend the best $1 of your life and see massive changes in your photography business, check out the Premium membership here:

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I’m not against Facebook for everyone. I’m against Facebook for me – Kristen Kalp

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Links to people, places and things mentioned in this episode:

Kristen Kalp Website

Kristen Kalp on Instagram

Introverts at Work: unleash your Quiet business flavor on the world

Calling to the Deep: Business as a Spiritual Practice

Brave Workshop! 9/19 & 9/20

M School

Sales Without Shame

Way up North

Bob Goff

Damian Blacklock

Episode 092: Kristen Kalp – How To Brand Your Photography Business the Right Way

Episode 123: Kristen Kalp – How To Get The Best Portrait Photography Sales

Episode 182: Kristen Kalp – How to Get Paid and Stay Creative as a Photographer

Bianca Duimel Interview

Heart Story Photography Interview

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Thank you!

Thanks again for listening and thanks to Kristen for coming on and sharing so much about her business, ideas, strategies  and how she's built a successful photography business in such a competitive market.

The absence of poetry is one of the only regrets I have in the whole of my life and I’ve done some really stupid shit – Kristen Kalp

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That’s it for me this week, hope everything is going well for you in life and business!

Thanks and speak soon